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February 05, 2008

Moderate Terrorists

When homicide bombers target a mall in Dimona, Israel, they target all malls in Israel. When homicide bombers kill one Jew they threaten all Jews from Israel to Great Britain.

Some may fool themselves that by expelling Jews from their homes they will appease Islamic terrorists, and bring peace to the the Middle East. This is pure fantasy. Sooner or later these same jihadists will demand that Jews give up their homes in Tel Aviv, Haifa, Paris, Sydney, and New York. The template is set with all 22 Arab Muslim countries Judenrein—excuse me 23, Gaza is the Palestinian State and it is, of course, free of Jews. Naturally, the Arabs demand that Judea and Samaria also be cleansed of Jews. It is unthinkable that any Arab tolerate Jewish citizens.

And the international community finds this ethnic cleansing perfectly acceptable.

It comes as no surprise that one of the homicide bombers in Dimona was a member of Fatah, the terror gang led by Mahmoud Abbas, now in so-called peace negotiations with Prime Minister Olmert.

Just last week, Aaron Klein reported in The Jewish Press:

The stated Palestinian goal of a Palestinian State is just a temporary ruse until “all of Palestine” can be “liberated,” declared Saleh Raafat, a member of the executive committee of Abbas's Palestine Liberation Organization in an interview on Fatah's official television network.
Raafat said the Palestinians would accept “22 percent of Palestine” as a temporary and not permanent” state until “all of Palestine” can be liberated.

When Raafat says all of Palestine, he means the State of Israel.

Fatah and Hamas are quite clear on their goals about eliminating the State of Israel. The two terror groups only differ on tactics.

Those who counsel endless negotiations with jihadists who seek the destruction of the Jewish State do not understand that these negotiations only favor the Arabs. The terror gangs grow stronger, their morale improves, and the resolve in Israel among the chattering classes crumbles at an astonishing rate. Many Israelis turn their scorn and hatred towards the Haredim instead of towards those who truly seek their destruction—a sad case of Stockholm Syndrome, and classic self-hatred.

Interpolation:

I had lunch the other day with my good friend Omri Ceren, of Mere Rhetoric. Omri is a secular Israeli, and his Ferrari of a mind works at about 120 mph. We discussed the Haredi, secular divide. Omri was, Baruch HaShem, eloquent: “Robert, okay, so they don't serve in the army, but since there is only one Jewish State in the world I'd like to err on the side of safety and just leave it alone. If not for people like the Haredim, Torah would not survive and thus the Jewish people would not survive.”

And as our son Ariel ZT'L once said to me: “HaShem made different Jews to serve Eretz Yisroel in different ways.”

End Interpolation:

Finally: Seraphic Secret receives a fair amount of mail from people who accuse us of being:

1. War mongers.
2. Racists.
3. Alarmists.
4. Meanies.
5. Not interested in seeking a just and peaceful solution to the Mideast conflict.

To which we respond:

1. War solves more problems than peace conferences. Remember: Munich.
2. For a true taste of racism, in the form of Jew-hatred, please read the Hamas charter. Or any Arab newspaper.
3. You bet. People should be alarmed. If you're not alarmed, you're a moron.
4.
5. Just and peaceful solution is code for: the end of the Jewish State.

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Today's Links:

Here's a thought provoking blog that asks: Am I a Frum Feminist?

Michael Yon: Men of Valor Part VIII

Internet Problems in the Muslim World: The Jooz Did It!

Please support our Seraphic Friends: Muslims Against Sharia.

Rampant Islamic Jew-hatred in Europe.

Radical Muslims for Obama.

On the Present Danger Facing Israel and All Jews
by Rachel Neuwirth, an outstanding article.

Posted by Robert J. Avrech at February 5, 2008 08:52 AM

Comments

Seraphic Secret is private property, that's right, it's an extension of our home, and as such, Karen and I have instituted two Seraphic Rules and we ask commentors to act respectfully.

1. No profanity.

2. No Israel bashing. We debate, we discuss, we are respectful. You know what Israel bashing is. The world is full of it. Seraphic Secret is one of the few places in the world that will not tolerate this form of anti-Semitism.

That's it. Break either of these rules and you will be banned.

I _know_ that Israel is the home of the Jews...but maybe it's time to consider dispersing _some_ Jews to more friendly parts of the world? Like the US? Young couples with many children to come? Maybe?

The bad thing about so many Jews in Israel is that Israel is so small...so many people in such a small area that so many other people want to kill and destroy...

Imo...to lose the Jews in huge numbers would be a very bad thing for the world...maybe it's time for some of them - to go somewhere safe?

I know...unthinkable, but still?

Posted by: suek at February 5, 2008 10:11 AM

You didn't respond to the "meanies" charge. Does silence give assent? You meany.

Posted by: kishke at February 5, 2008 10:40 AM

Suek:

Well, now you're giving into terror. Exactly what the jihadists want. And when the Muslims say that the presence of Jews is intolerable in Brooklyn how do you respond?

You see appeasement only leads to more appeasement.

Hey, I have an idea, substitute the word Jews for American blacks.

And then substitute the word Muslims for the KKK.


Posted by: Robert J. Avrech [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2008 10:53 AM

Kishke:

Of course I'm mean. Ask anyone in Hollywood. Producers are terrified of this screenwriter.

Posted by: Robert J. Avrech [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2008 10:55 AM

Funny you should use that title. In a slightly longer article Barry Rubin made a similar point today.

And you made an argument that Rabbi Emmanuel Feldman made a number of years ago in a satirical piece about Israel retreating to the Jerusalem Bus Station. I haven't been able to find it online though.

Posted by: soccerdad [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2008 10:59 AM

You forgot a rebuttal for #4. :-)

Posted by: Dr.Carol at February 5, 2008 12:13 PM

That's what I get for commenting before I read carefully.

Good catch, kishke.

Posted by: Dr. Carol at February 5, 2008 12:30 PM

Regarding #4 (and I realize you left it blank on purpose) - I think we should start using the term "mean" more often. It might make those on the other side of the aisle understand a little better. You know how they have those bumper stickers that read, "Mean People Suck"? Well, maybe we should explain that terrorists are mean. Very, very, mean. Might that turn the terrorati against the terrorists?

Posted by: ralphie at February 5, 2008 01:47 PM

No doubt Robert left it blank b/c in war it's good to be mean, "meaner than a junkyard dog." "Better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both."

Posted by: kishke at February 5, 2008 02:49 PM

Muslims Against Sharia condemn the murderers responsible for the homicide bombing in Dimona as well as degenerate perpetuation of the culture of death in Gaza.

Our prayers are with the victims of this atrocity. We send our condolences to their loved ones.

May the homicide bomber rot in hell for eternity. May his accomplices and animals who celebrated this horrendous act join him soon!

http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/02/first-suicide-bombing-in-israel-in-year.html

Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 5, 2008 05:03 PM

The second suicide bombing attempt in Dimona was thwarted by a courageous security officer. As the bomber laid on the ground after being shot the security officer noticed that he was still attempting to move, without hesitancy he shot him several more times.
An arab MK made the ridiculous comment that the security officer acted inhumanely and should have not shot him once he saw that he was still alive on the ground.
Of course there will be an inquiry and possibly even a lawsuit against the brave security officer who saved possibly dozens of lives!

Posted by: Gregg at February 6, 2008 02:35 AM

Hasn't the State of Israel already succumbed to terror?
Haven't all jews and non-jews already succumbed to Islamic terrorism?
The Muslim doctrine for future world domination is based on baby steps. We've seen countless examples in many nations around the globe.
Holland, France, England and of course Israel and the US have all succumbed to Islamic terror in one form or another.
Spain acquiesced to terror after Al Qaieda bombed a train prior to state elections.
The Arabs use western democracy coupled with outright threats of violence to infiltrate their doctrines within our society.

Unfortunately fighting this menace is a very very formidable task, one which we seem to be losing

Posted by: Gregg at February 6, 2008 02:52 AM

No...not giving in to terrorism...just wanting to insure that there's a back up plan...!

Posted by: suek at February 6, 2008 08:27 AM

Ralphie:

I'm mean.

Terrorists are sub-human scum who need killing.

Posted by: Robert J. Avrech [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 6, 2008 12:28 PM

Muslims Against Sharia:

Always good to hear from you. We linked to your site today. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: Robert J. Avrech [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 6, 2008 12:30 PM

Gregg:

This Arab MK, no doubt, also attended George Habash's funeral.

I have no idea why this man is not arrested as a traitor.

I haver no idea why he's allowed to sit in the Knesset.

This is democracy strangling itself.

Posted by: Robert J. Avrech [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 6, 2008 12:33 PM

Suek:

The back-up plan is victory over terrorism. All else is appeasement. And appeasement always leads to mass murder and genocide.

Thanks so much.

Posted by: Robert J. Avrech [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 6, 2008 12:36 PM

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