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May 14, 2008
Hamas: We Will Persecute and Burn the Zionists to Eternity

Olmert's peace partners give the official Palestinian Nazi salute.
Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar said Wednesday that a Palestinian state will be established on all of the land of Palestine and not only on parts of it, and that it will include "Jaffa, Lod and Haifa."
Zahar also reiterated Hamas' unwillingness to recognize the State of Israel and said that the group "will continue to persecute the Zionists wherever they are, after we prove that the Zionist army can be defeated — contrary to what was believed in the past, that it is impossible to beat the Zionists."
Speaking in the Gaza Strip, he went on to affirm Palestinian right of return, claiming that the "right of return of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians is closer than ever."
"After we defeat the Zionists we will persecute them… we will persecute them to eternity, and the sun of the freedom and independence of the Palestinians will burn all of the Zionists," he continued.
Original article from The Jerusalem Post.
I have a few questions and observations:
1. Why is this terrorist Jew-hater still alive? One hellfire missile from an Israeli drone will feed hell.
2. Why is Israel supplying fuel, power and medical supplies to Gaza? The Arabs who live in Gaza elected Hamas, thus overwhelmingly endorsing their genocidal program. Gaza shares a border with Egypt. Let the Egyptians supply, no doubt, brilliant medical care to their beloved Arab-Muslim brothers.
3. In the past few days mortars and rockets from Gaza have slaughtered two Israeli citizens, Jimmy Kedoshim, 48 and Shlomit Katz, 70. This morning, a missile from Gaza scored a direct hit on a shopping center in Ashkelon injuring a dozen men, women and children. The rocket was a Grad Missile, designed and brought into Gaza from Persia. It has a larger payload than the Quassam and a range of 12 miles. The technology will only improve. The corrupt PM Olmert has been negotiating with Holocaust denier and terrorist leader Muhamar Abbas. This is not just appeasement, it's self-strangulation on a national level. The first duty of the state is to protect all its citizens—not just the latte sippers in Tel Aviv. Yes, I guarantee, if missiles from Gaza were hitting Tel Aviv, Olmert would invade Gaza faster than he'd take a bribe.
4. Not only is Olmert negotiating with Abbas, but he's been negotiating a cease-fire, in reality a hudna‚ through Egypt, a leaky partner for Israel—with Hamas. This signals to the Arabs that Israel has lost the will to fight. No wonder Hamas boasts of destroying Israel and burning Jews. At this point, Olmert and Livni are no less than enablers of Hamas and all transnational terrorist groups who seek to eliminate Israel and rid the world of Jews.
5. Once again, Seraphic Secret urges Israel to cut all fuel, power and medical supplies to Gaza.
6. Israel should announce that each rocket, mortar and missile from Gaza will be met with an automatic response of ten shells to one. Thus it will be quite clear who is responsible for the rain of destruction.
7. If the attacks from Gaza don't cease within ten days, carpet bombing should commence. The civilian population will be warned in advance so they can make their way to Egypt, into the warm embrace of their generous Arab-Muslim brothers.
8. Gaza is an enemy state and should be treated as such.
9. Olmert is an appeaser and should be recognized as such.
10. If Israel continues with her current policies of appeasement, she will soon be bracketed by an Syrian-Persian controlled Lebanon—a done deal—and Gaza, a proxie for Persia. Israel must act with overwhelming force to short-circuit this Shia terror encirclement, and to reestablish regional deterrence. All else is suicide in slow motion.
11. And unless Israel deals decisively with these barbarians, then Israel will soon be subject to this sub-human jihadist savagery.
Posted by Robert J. Avrech at May 14, 2008 08:26 AM
Comments
Seraphic Secret is private property, that's right, it's an extension of our home, and as such, Karen and I have instituted two Seraphic Rules and we ask commentors to act respectfully.
1. No profanity.2. No Israel bashing. We debate, we discuss, we are respectful. You know what Israel bashing is. The world is full of it. Seraphic Secret is one of the few places in the world that will not tolerate this form of anti-Semitism. That's it. Break either of these rules and you will be banned.
After a katyusha rocket hit a mall in Ashkelon earlier today.....This was the response by that brilliant PM, Ehud Olmert.
He pledged to stop Gaza rocket strikes....
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/983451.html
If I had a dollar...or a shekel....for every pledge this waste of a leader made I could retire on my own island paradise.
Posted by: Lance at May 14, 2008 12:36 PM
1. Why is this terrorist Jew-hater still alive? One hellfire missile from an Israeli drone will feed hell.
Agreed.
Posted by: Jack at May 14, 2008 01:55 PM
Lance:
I've often said that Olmert is the worst leader of Israel since King Ahab, but at least Ahab kept a kosher kitchen.
Posted by: Robert J. Avrech
at May 15, 2008 11:22 AM
Jack:
Glad to have you in my corner. Now, we just need the Israeli authorities to listen to us.
Posted by: Robert J. Avrech
at May 15, 2008 11:24 AM
When reading the hateful rubbish spouted by these excuses for men I console myself with the thought that perhaps sooner than they wish they will be shown just how mighty they are. I know modern warfare takes many forms but eventually the skill and dedication of the forces of the free world shows these individuals up as the cowardly murderers they are.In the case of Hamas the reckoning is overdue but will be all the more pleasing when it does arrive...Olmert allowing.
Posted by: thud at May 15, 2008 04:29 PM
Thud:
Olmert does not allow. And when he does, as in the Second Lebanon War, he fails completely and miserably.
Posted by: Robert J. Avrech
at May 15, 2008 05:55 PM
Robert...I live in the hope that the olmerts of this world come and go and our inner strength remains.
Posted by: thud at May 16, 2008 03:20 PM
A very good post. Your questions are, though more eloquently stated than my own, precisely the same in subject matter. Israel needs to defend itself robustly and wholly ignore the UN and international MSM pro-jihadi echo chamber. Linked.
Posted by: GW at May 18, 2008 07:43 AM
Wolf Howling:
Thanks so much for taking notice and the vote of confidence in my post. It's an honor to be linked to your superb website which, by the way, offers some of the best analysis of the geo-political scene in the known universe.
Posted by: Robert J. Avrech
at May 18, 2008 03:23 PM
You know the truth Bob? Now really is the time to ANNIHILATE these vermin once and for all! It’s time for the ‘final solution’. We’ve pushed 800,000 them into ghetto Gaza, starved them of fuel, medicine and food, but truly, even this Warsaw theme park ain’t tough enough for this scum. Listen, if they haven’t learnt after 60 years that all their old family homes, olive groves and fields now belong to us (we came to their land, we fought for them, and they’re ours now for God’s sake!), then believe me Bob, they’re never getting over it! They are incapable of understanding that all we want is to live in their houses and farm their fields in PEACE.
Yes, I know, I’m banned. We only want ‘sound critical analysis’ here, don’t we Bob? ‘Respectful discussion and debate’ (just so long as it's ass-licking subservience to Bob’s world view). "The world is full of racist bigotry". Thankfully, oh thankfully, Bob, Seraphic Secret is one of the few places in the world where its not tolerated. A hellfire missile on the home of the ranting war-mongering bigot? Sounds a good start to me!
Posted by: Mike Drew at May 20, 2008 02:30 AM
Mike:
Your comment implies that the State of Israel was stolen from the Palestinian people. This is not true.
Here's an excerpt from "Big Lies: Demolishing The Myths of the Propaganda War Against Israel" by David Meir-Levi.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1501222/posts
"The State of Israel was created in a peaceful and legal process by the United Nations. It was not created out of Palestinian lands. It was created out of the Ottoman Empire, ruled for four hundred years by the Turks who lost it when they were defeated in World War I. There were no “Palestinian” lands at the time because there were no people claiming to be Palestinians. There were Arabs who lived in the region of Palestine who considered themselves Syrians. It was only after World War I that the present states of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq were also created – and also created artificially out of the Turkish Empire by the British and French victors. Jordan was created on about 80 percent of the Palestine Mandate, which was originally designated by the League of Nations as part of the Jewish homeland. Since then, Jews have been prohibited from owning property there. Two-thirds of its citizens are Palestinian Arabs, but it is ruled by a Hashemite monarchy.
"In 1947, the UN partition plan mandated the creation of two states on the remaining 20 percent of the Palestine Mandate: the State of Israel for the Jews, and another state for the Arabs. The Arabs rejected their state, and launched a war against Israel. This is the primal cause of the Arab refugee problem.
"The Arab refugees were roughly 725,000 people who fled because of the war that the Arab states – not the Palestinian Arabs -- started. The Arab states - dictatorships all - did not want a non-Arab state in the Middle East. The rulers of eight Arab countries whose populations vastly outnumbered the Jewish settlers in the Turkish Empire, initiated the war with simultaneous invasions of the newly created state of Israel on three fronts. Nascent Israel begged for peace and offered friendship and cooperation to its neighbors. The Arab dictators rejected this offer and answered it with a war of annihilation against the Jews. The war failed. But the state of war has continued uninterruptedly because of the failure of the Arab states –Saudi Arabia and Iraq in particular – to sign a peace treaty with Israel. To this day, the Arab states and the Palestinians refer to the failure of their aggression and the survival of Israel as an-Nakba – the catastrophe.
"Had there been no Arab aggression, no war, and no invasion by Arab armies whose intent was overtly genocidal, not only would there have been no Arab refugees, but there would have been a state of Palestine in the West Bank and Gaza since 1948.
"In the war, Israel acquired additional land. In the absence of a peace treaty between belligerents, the law of nations allows the annexation of an aggressor’s land after a conflict – although the land in question belonged to the Turks and then the World War I victors. Israel actually offered to return land it had acquired while defending itself against the Arab aggression in exchange for a formal peace. It made this offer during the Rhodes Armistice talks and Lausanne conference in 1949. The Arab rulers refused the land because they wanted to maintain a state of war in order to destroy the Jewish state. Had Israel’s offer been accepted, there could have been prompt and just resolution to all the problems that have afflicted the region since. The only problem that wouldn’t have been resolved to the satisfaction of the Arabs was their desire to obliterate the state of Israel.
"After their victory, Israel passed a law that allowed Arab refugees to re-settle in Israel provided they would sign a form in which they renounced violence, swore allegiance to the state of Israel, and became peaceful productive citizens. During the decades of this law’s tenure, more than 150,000 Arab refugees have taken advantage of it to resume productive lives in Israel. Jews do not have a similar option to become citizens of Arab states from which they are banned.
"It should be completely obvious to any reasonable and fair-minded observer of this history, therefore, that it was not Israel that caused the Arab refugee problem, nor Israel that obstructed its solution.
"On the contrary, the Arab refugee problem was the direct result of the aggression by the Arab states, and their refusal after failing to obliterate Israel to sign a formal peace, or to take care of the Arab refugees who remained outside Israel’s borders."
The Jewish Refugees
"There were other refugees from the Arab-Israeli conflict that everyone on the Arab side of the argument chooses conveniently to forget. Between 1949 and 1954, about 800,000 Jews were forced to flee from the Arab and Muslim lands where they had lived for hundreds and even thousands of years – from Iraq, Morocco, Tunisia, Jordan and Iran, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, and other Muslim countries. These Jews were peaceful citizens of their Arab countries and in no way a hostile population. Nonetheless, they were forced at gun-point to flee with nothing but the clothes on their backs. The only reason for their expulsion was revenge against the Jewish citizenry of Arab countries for the shame of the Arab defeat in their war of aggression.
"Most of these Jewish refugees came to Israel, where they were integrated into normalcy by the tiny fledgling Jewish state. The Arab states (and later the PLO) refused to do this for the Arab refugees because they preferred to keep them an aggrieved constituency for their war against Israel.
"Some observers have suggested that the dual refugee situation should be understood as a “population exchange” – Arabs fled to Arab countries as Jews fled to the Jewish country, both as a result of the 1948 war, both under conditions which their side regards as forced evacuations. On the other hand, no one on the Arab side has suggested the obvious: if Jewish refugees were resettled on land vacated by fleeing Arabs, why not resettle Arab refugees on the lands of Jews who were forced to flee the Arab countries. One reason no one has suggested this is that no Arab state with the exception of Jordan will even allow Arab refugees to become citizens.
"Taking into account the Jewish refugees’ assets that were confiscated when they fled from Arab and Muslim lands, one can conclude that the Jews have already paid massive “reparations” to the Arabs whether warranted or not. The property and belongings of the Jewish refugees, confiscated by the Arab governments, has been conservatively estimated at about $2.5 billion in 1948 dollars. Invest that money at a modest 6.5% over 57 years and you have today a sum of $80 billion, which the Arab and Muslim governments of the lands from which the Jews were expelled could apply to the benefit of the Arab refugees. That sum is quite sufficient for reparations to Arab refugees. There is no way of accurately assessing the value of Arab property left in Israel’s control; but there are no estimates as high as a 1948 value of $2,500,000,000. So, hypothetically, the Arab side has already gotten the better end of the deal.
"During the many wars of the 20th century, tens of millions of refugees were created in Europe and Asia. In 1922, 1.8 million people were relocated to resolve the Turkey-Greece war. Following World War II, some 3,000,000 Germans were forced from countries of Eastern Europe and resettled in Germany. When the Indian sub-continent was divided, over 12 million people were transferred between India and Pakistan.
"All such refugee issues have been resolved, except the roughly 725,000 Arabs who fled Israel during the 1948 war and whom the Arab states and the Palestinian Authority have kept in refugee camps."
Mike, I suggest you read the entire pamphlet. Historical accuracy is vital when dealing with the Arab Israeli conflict.
As for Gaza. Several years ago, Gaza was rendered Judenrein, when 9,000 Jews were forcibly expelled from their homes. Ther Arabs in Gaza had the opportunity to build a viable infrastucture. Instead they destroyed the hot-house bought for them by American Jews, and elected Hamas, a terrorist group whose charter calls for the eradication of the Jewish State and the death of Jews all across the globe. Instead of building a state, the Palestinians in Gaza chose to launch rockets and suicide bombers into Israel.
Gaza is nopt being starved of fuel. In fact, when fule arrives elements of Hamas and Hizbullah divvy up most of it for their use and then sell the rest on the Gaza black market for a huge profit, hence creating great misery.
Medical supplies are also stolen by the various terrorist groups for their own personal use, and again sold on the black market for huge profits.
Gaza shares a border wqith Egypt. That border is sealed too. The reason is simple. The Egyptians have no love for Hamas or Hizbullah (Persian proxies) either, and want to isolate this terrorist state.
Posted by: Robert J. Avrech
at May 20, 2008 04:25 PM
Well, the same sort of love has been offered to Al Sadr and his Sadr City criminal terror gang for how many years now ? " Bring them into the fold" the powers that be screed and openly postulate and creen and preen on about.
I guess the modern western world is so good, it can no longer imagine not offering even the filthiest rejector of it, the possibility of the prize, over and over, and over again.
The superior firepower of the west makes this possible, and ensures it's repetition.
When I saw the reported "10,000" hamas and hezzbollah in the street celebrating their " march to war" (as I recall after a hellfire missile strike that killed some terror leaders)- with their gangbanger headbands and ak47's and chanting, you can rest assured I would have wiped them off the streets and the face of the earth, and anyone close enough to even hear the rabble-rousing - not just hellfires, but napalm and whatever else would prevent effective fleeing. I would have " sent the message ".
Isn't that what these goofballs always talk about nowadays, winning the hearts and minds by sending the proper message ? Well, that's the winning message. Every heart and mind would immediately have the proper picture "seared, just seared into them ".(Thanks John Kerry)
Of course, in today's western tree hugging world, I'd never be elected, nor would anyone with the same idea - or so it seems, not yet anyway.
On another note, the USA is perversely lucky the Pentagon was struck on 911, and that the target was considered to be the White House or the Congress, before the plane erred...
This assured those sipping latte's and never paying for lunch in DC had a puckered backside and undeniable fear placed deep within their coddled tum tums. Well, you saw the reaction, and initally that was great, but now of course, many think all is well for them, again, of course their run for power requires them to decieve even themselves, and the general public on this note.
So, "good luck" about those in Tel Aviv... or rather not... not sure it's worth it, apparently the wake up call doesn't last very long.
I guess nothing will change until an emourmous smackdown occurs, and it might take several, might take quite a bit to dislodge all the arms wrapped around every tree in sight.
Posted by: Silicondoc at May 22, 2008 01:44 AM
