Gee - what a shock....

All those Israel haters that surrounded BHO - and the "peace loving" liberal jews never dreamed he would do anything to hurt Israel -

How stupid can they be - well - this stupid
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1108/west111708.php3

May hashem help us all -

Genesis 13:14-17

And the Lord said to Abram, after Lot had separated from him, "Now lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward; for all the land which you see, I will give it to you and to your descendants forever.

"And I will make your descendants as the dust of the earth; so that if anyone can number the dust of the earth, then your descendants can also be numbered.

"Arise, walk about the land through its length and breadth; for I will give it to you."

Genesis 15:18

On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates ..."

So how do you all think this will play out? Will Israel continue to try and placate the bully or stand up?

I am perplexed at how the world feels that Israel should give yet more land considering how Gaza has ended up. It seems to me (as a gentile) that from 1948 when the UN blessed Israel that the tables have completely turned - better PR from the other side? When such "notables" as Yassar Arafat and Jimmy Carter get the Nobel "Peace" Prize?

The only peace Israel seems to have made is with the Egyptians - I was in Cairo 1983 at the Radisson Hotel (Giza) and remember at breakfast in the buffet line were some Israeli tourists - "how surrealistic", I thought at the time.

Perhaps Robert's description of "battered wife syndrome" best describes Israel today.

Funny... today, there is "empowerment training" for kids in order to help them avoid being bullied. But we here in Israel are expected to lie down and take it -- and we are. Who's crazy?

During my own childhood, my mother drilled it into me that if anyone hit me, I was to hit back. Although I was the youngest and smallest in my class, I did so, and though I was bullied for many years, the bullies were careful not to get physical because they knew that if they did, I would hit back or kick them in the shins. Popular I wasn't, but my response did get me some respect.

How did your bully story end?

Yonoson:

Obama's supporters are not stupid. Didn't you get the memo? They are sophisticated geo-political thinkers. for whom appeasement is the new black.

Beth:

Jews and Israelis too often talk about Israeli security concerns and Pali rights.

In fact, we should be talking about Jewish rights just as often as we discuss security concerns.

Thanks so much.

Bill:

I'm not a prophet. I have no idea how it will play out. If Livni wins the election things will get worse. If Bibi wins things will get less worse.

The so-called peace with Egypt is a mockery. If they could, they'd unleash hell on Israel at the drop of a hat.

The big worry is Iran. That's the only game in town at the moment. All else is child's play.

Rahel:

As I've said before, Israeli policy towards her genocidal Arab neighbors seems to be modeled on the battered wife syndrome. There is no other explanation for the way Israel tolerates the white hot madness from Gaza. Believe me, if America was being attacked from, say, Mexico, in such a manner, that pocket of terror would be bombed into dust.

I could not fight against my bully. He was huge and insane and he would have pounded me into the ground. I had no allies. I was really alone. I told a teacher and she said: “What did you do to provoke him?”

Sort of like the UN.

Mata Hari:

I told my mother I didn't want dessert anymore. My bully punched me a few more times, and moved on to another victim.

That was Obama's policy all along. Israel isn't safe with him, but who knows what McCain would have done in office?
In this case, with all the other pressures on Obama, saying "NO" to the bully would do the trick. US polls say that most Americans aren't really interested in the middle east.

As an Israeli, I don't expect any help from the American Govt. Israel needs strong, wise leaders, like what we ask G-d for in the prayer.

http://shilohmusings.blogspot.com/2007/04/why-on-yom-haatzmaut-i-say-hallel-with.html

Robert:

I sympathize, truly.

My bullying, which lasted from second grade to the end of high school, took a different form -- it was viciously verbal and, on occasion, committed against my personal property. Except for my mother's strong advice to hit back if physically attacked I, too, was alone. I still remember where I was standing when my sixth-grade teacher told me that the bullying I suffered was my fault because I used "big words." (Yes -- a teacher was suggesting that a pupil "dumb down.") When I was thirteen, a teacher joined the students in their teasing by describing me with a pejorative term. We were on a bus, off school grounds, and he thought I hadn't heard him. I turned in my seat, faced him without a word and met his eyes without blinking until he mumbled something about it being a joke.

Dealing with bullies isn't really all that complicated. Take 3 months of Krav Maga training and most bullies will cross the street when they see you coming.

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