Ship of Irish Fools

Gaza Water Park, or as the Flotilla of Fools call it: A Concentration Camp.

An excellent article by Ruth Dudley Edwards, an Irish historian, novelist, journalist and broadcaster, on the Gaza-bound flotilla of fools. She correctly notes that this movement is motivated not by humanitarian concerns but a pathological hatred of Jews.

It was the Fifties and I was about seven when I pointed to the photograph of Hitler in my republican granny’s lair and said: “What about the Jews, grandmother?” “British propaganda,” she replied.

Grandmother Edwards was not stupid, but she was adept at filtering out information that didn’t fit her world view. As far as she was concerned, the Nazis had been allies of the IRA and enemies of the Brits so they were the good guys.

I retired to discuss the matter further with my mother, at whose knee I had learned about the Holocaust and who was an admirer of Jewish creativity and culture. I will be forever grateful to her for inoculating me against the knee-jerk anti-Semitism of Roman Catholicism and for making me ashamed of my country’s meanness of spirit in slamming the door against Jewish refugees.

Let us be clear. Whether they know it or not, that gaggle of posturing, ignorant Irish clowns who are setting sail towards Gaza on the MV Saoirse are driven by anti-Semitism. Otherwise they would be protesting against — for instance — the Islamist killings and bombings that are forcing tens of thousands of Christians to flee the Middle East, the ethnic cleansing in the Sudan, the ill-treatment of servants and women in Saudi Arabia, the hanging of gays from cranes in Iran, the massacres of protesters in Libya and Syria, the torture of Irish-trained doctors in Bahrain for tending to injured demonstrators and the vicious anti-Jewish propaganda that teaches Arab children to hate.

Read the entire article here.

Further scenes of horror from Asda City, Gaza:

See how the children of Gaza suffer.

Obviously a clever Zionist conspiracy against the poor, oppressed people of Gaza.

By the way, Asda City is occupied territory. This is land which which was the site  of Jewish hothouses before the 10,000 Jews of Gaza were expelled making Gaza another Judenrein Arab Muslim apartheid state.

Hey, I have a fab-u-lous idea for the creatures who are so anxious to bring, ahem, humanitarian relief to suffering Arabs. Try pointing your flotilla towards Sudan where hundreds of thousands are being slaughtered, or Syria where children are being shot down in the streets by Assad’s thugs, or gee, hey about helping out the hapless NATO forces—Obama says he’s leading from behind, which is, I suppose, much like leading with your tuchus—in Libya where the lunatic Kaddafi and his mad-dog sons employ Muslim mercenaries to slaughter, what a shock, Muslims.

Oh, wait, that actually might be dangerous, probably fatal, and besides, no Jews are involved, thus, nothing to see, move on.

Photos via Aussie Dave, of Israelly Cool, a very cool blog.

Speaking of Arab Muslim Apartheid, take a look at this video link to Varney & Co. which discusses the unholy alliance between Delta Airlines and Saudi Arabia.

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26 Comments

  1. TedLeddy
    Posted June 30, 2011 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    Thanks Robert

    No harm done. I know your style. I was just being cantankerous. I cross posted the Dudely Edwards article for my own blog today. http://gubu-world.blogspot.com/2011/06/irish-rove

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  2. TedLeddy
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Robert

    The" Irish chattering classes" are no different than the American chattering classes. There is also an American ship travelling to Gaza. I resent the title and the tone of this post.

    By the way, a pro Israeli demonstration, albeit small was held outside the Department of Foreign Affairs in Dublin last week to mark the fifth anniversary of Gilad Shalit's abduction. http://gubu-world.blogspot.com/2011/06/gilad-shal

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    • Posted June 29, 2011 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

      Ted:

      Thanks so much for jumping in. Sorry you resent the title and tone of this post. I have written snarky titles and posts about treasonous Israeli leftists and dumb American Jews. My contempt for the reflexive Jew-hatred of the left is not isolated to any nationality.

      My hope is that the IDF will torpedo every ship—American, Turkish, Canadian, Irish, etc.,— attempting to break the Israeli blockade. Once that happens there will be no more flotillas.

      There is no deterrence without the disproportionate use of force.

      Thanks so much for posting the piece about the Dublin protest for Shalit. In the future, if time permits, let me know about such posts and I'll link to them or Tweet them.

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  3. TedLeddy
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Mr McGinnis
    I'm not sure what you think the Irish have to answer for.

    I too wish you had a different second name. And as for your friends who joke that the 1.5 million Irish who perished in the 19th century famine (thousands of whom are buried in a mass grave about 1 mile from where I live) were useless and that their decendents are losers, please tell them that I said I think they are repulsive scumbags. And by the way, the post independence Civil War in Ireland lasted 11 months and cost 2,000 lives. It resulted in a stable democracy that has lasted the test of time. As civil wars go, it was must less costly than most, including your own American.

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    • Miranda Rose Smith
      Posted July 3, 2011 at 2:34 am | Permalink

      Dear TedLeddy: All good points and good for you. That joke about the famine victims was tacky and cruel and Ireland DID immerge from the Civil War as a stable Democracy, like Israel.

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  4. TedLeddy
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    On the other side De Valera's close associate Robert Briscoe was a devout Jew and Zionist who fought against the British, and against the first independent government which he believed had sold out. His actions were very similar to those in the Irgun who were willing to fight the IDF in 1948. I don't think the late Mr Briscoe, or his son Ben (a former Lord Mayor of Dublin) would take too kindlly to Mrs Dudly Edwards article.

    Furthermore, her statement that she was ashamed of "my country’s meanness of spirit in slamming the door against Jewish refugees" makes little sense. World War Two created many times more non Jewish refugees than Jewish ones. The Irish government didn't take them in either. The government of the time was protectionist and introvert and did not, shamefully accept many refugees. Like every nation on earth, Ireland at the time had anti semites but crucially, we kept ours away from power. When it comes to European nations' war time treatment of the Jews, Ireland is one of the last nations that should be criticised. Could they have done more , of course, what nation couldn't.

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  5. TedLeddy
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    I am glad Eamon referred to the Irish Republican constitution of 1938 which specifically mentions the Jews as having protection under the constitution. When the rest of Europe was enacting laws persecuting the Jews, the Irish were passing laws protecting them. This is one of the reasons there is a forest in northern Israel named after Eamon De Valera. I don't expect there is any other nation other than Israel whose constitutions mentions the Jewish people.

    Across the Irish Civil War divide there was a positive view of Irish Jews. Richard Mulcahy is a figure who has been written out of Republican history because he took the moderate pro Treaty side in the Civil War, this despite the fact that he was IRA Chief of Staff during the 1919-21 war against the British. His son recently published his fathers papers in which he mentions several times how Dublins Jewish community contributed to the struggle by storing ammunition and harbouring IRA members on the run.

    Ted

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  6. TedLeddy
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Now for some facts. The IRA of 1938-41 which was a splinter of a splinter of a splinter of a splinter of the IRA that achieved independence in 1922 sent 3 men to Germany in 1938. After realising their capability was light, they were refused any help by Berlin. The Nazis wanted people who could invade Northern Ireland or commit large scale sabotage in Belfast which the IRA were unable to do. The IRA instead initiated a bombing campaign of mainland Britain which petered out by 1940 after causing minimal damage and 6 fatalities. If any of you want to take from this that the Irish who won their freedom during 1916-1921 hated Jews and loved the Nazis then go right ahead, but I for one think that like those who constantly bash Israel, you probably have a bigoted (perhaps anti Catholic) motive.

    Ted

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  7. TedLeddy
    Posted June 29, 2011 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    I am only seeing this now. I have a lot to say so here it goes.

    The first part of Ruth Dudley Edwards' article is lazy and inaccurate for the following reasons.

    The story about her messed up old granny is a deliberate attempt to associate Irish Republicanism with being pro fascist and anti semetic. There is little or no evidence of this. In truth, her motivation is likely that of an emigrant whose experience in parochial Ireland was an unhappy one. This is probably more for personal reasons than anything else.

    Ted

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  8. Bill_Brandt
    Posted June 27, 2011 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Robert – several thoughts came to mind while reading your always thought-provoking posts:

    1. Can you help me get into the film business? I have a great screenplay – will you read it? ;-)

    2. In history, a dirty little secret is that the Republic of Ireland was full of Nazi sympathizers – as were a few members of the British Royal family – Was it based primarily on hatred for the British or anti-Semitism? I do not know.

    I would really like to know who Rudolf Hess was planning on meeting – my gut feeling is that it was Edward – banished to Bermuda for the war's duration – but I suspect by the time the British limitation on "secrecy" of the documents that would tell us is lifted I will be gone. Was it 99 years?

    3. I have to say your post was enlightening for the simple revelation that one's view of the world is colored by one's prejudices. It explains why we have not seen many movies on Islamist terrorism.

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    • Posted June 27, 2011 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

      Bill:

      1. Nope:-)

      2. I think it's pretty safe to say that the Irish Nazi sympathizers hated the British because they were, y'know, English and the Jew-hatred did not hurt.

      3. Edward was sort of an idiot. Even the Windsor knot he invented is clunky, too big. I have heard that Hess was to meet with Edward, but who knows? I was taken off of a script a few years ago because the producer said it was anti-Islam. Punch-line: producer was a liberal Jew. Double punch line: I was on a play or play so the producer/studio had to pay my full fee, paying me not to work.

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      • Bill_Brandt
        Posted June 27, 2011 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

        I think The King's Speech was pretty accurate in portraying Edward but I have no way of knowing for sure.

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        • Posted June 27, 2011 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

          Bill:

          Have not yet seen The King's Speech. Hard to find time for contemporary films when I spend so much time screening classics. But eventually I do catch up.

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  9. Posted June 27, 2011 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    The really sad thing is that the Jewish community in Dublin contributed greatly to the Irish struggle for independence. I'm not sure that Ruth Dudley Edwards is entirely correct about knee-jerk anti-Semitism among Irish Catholics, though. It's present certainly but not universally and was certainly not uncritically accepted. It was after all De Valera's constitution that enshrined recognition of the Jewish community in Ireland.

    This flotilla is a disgrace certainly but on the other hand I refuse to be ashamed of my Irish passport – if it's good enough for the Mossad, it's good enough for me!

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    • Miranda Rose Smith
      Posted June 28, 2011 at 3:58 am | Permalink

      It was after all De Valera's constitution that enshrined recognition of the Jewish community in Ireland.

      Is that so? Some Irgun and Lehi fighters saw a similarity between themselves and the IRA.

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  10. lukehandcool
    Posted June 27, 2011 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    Before setting off for Sudan, Syria, Libya, etc., the flotilla humanitarians, in yet another selfless display of disregard for their own safety, will set sail for Germany to aid the oppressed Scientologists. A dangerous mission, but, hey, first things first … these missions must be prioritized in terms of greatest numbers of victims threatened with genocide.
    I'm almost finished with David Mamet's new book, "The Secret Knowledge." Robert, did you know he lives in Santa Monica? I read something about him a few weeks ago and found out he lived here and that he sends his children to the public schools here. I thought we'd crossed paths.

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    • Posted June 27, 2011 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

      lukehandcool:

      Sorry your comment got cut off. We're working on it.

      I read Mamet's book last week. It is great!

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    • Miranda Rose Smith
      Posted June 28, 2011 at 3:56 am | Permalink

      Before setting off for Sudan, Syria, Libya, etc., the flotilla humanitarians, in yet another selfless display of disregard for their own safety, will set sail for Germany to aid the oppressed Scientologists.

      Dear Mr. Cool: Is that a joke or not?

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  11. kishke
    Posted June 27, 2011 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Excellent article.

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    • Robert J. Avrech
      Posted June 27, 2011 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

      Kishke:

      It's such a relief to come across common sense and not so common decency from Western Euriope.

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  12. Miranda Rose Smiuth
    Posted June 27, 2011 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    The explanation given by Jim Roche of the Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign — a spokesman for the Irish contingent — is that "the people of Gaza are being slowly starved and are being completely deprived of their human rights to live in dignity".

    If Mr. Crotch is so concerned about starving people and people deprived of their right to live in dignity, why doesn't he take his flotilla to North Korea? "Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign?" How long before Mr. Crotch and his friends find out that's rather like "Canary Cat Solidarity Campaign?" The Jews are humanity's miner's canaries. Take a good look at how your precious "Palestinians" treat the Jews, Mr. Crotch. It's how they're going to treat you. Bet on it.

    Off Topic: Ruth Dudley Edwards writes a wonderful series of murder mysteries, about a fat, rude Lesbian baroness.

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    • Robert J. Avrech
      Posted June 27, 2011 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

      Miranda:

      Obviously Roche doesn't give a flying fig about true suffering. He's just another vile Jew-hater using the banner of PC anti-Zionism as cover.

      This is true for the BDS movement and almost the entire Human Rights movement as personified in the Nazi inspired Durban conferences.

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  13. rick_mcginnis
    Posted June 27, 2011 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    The Irish have a lot to answer for, and for not the first time, I wish I had a different surname. When asked about my background, I tend to say that my people came from the north of England and Scotland. Some of my Irish-Canadian friends joke that the famine forced all the really smart, energetic, industrious people out of Ireland, leaving the folks who killed each other in a civil war after gaining independence, helped Nazi subs refuel and provision, and support cretinous causes like the Gaza flotilla.

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    • Robert J. Avrech
      Posted June 27, 2011 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

      Rick:

      The Irish have an economy that is in the toilet. In the Congo over a million have been slaughtered in the past few years in a genocidal civil war. The Muslim world is a swamp of tyranny and Jew-hatred. And yet the Irish chattering classes are lined up against, naturally, Israel. The only democracy in the ME.

      Do you think if Israel was a Buddhist state goverened by the Dalai Lama the Irish would be aflame with hatred?

      I don't think so.

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    • Miranda Rose Smith
      Posted June 28, 2011 at 4:03 am | Permalink

      leaving the folks who killed each other in a civil war after gaining independence,

      Dear Mr. McGinnis: It was only the truly heroic restraint of Menachem Begin, of Blessed Memory, that prevented a civil war at the birth of the State of Israel, when the Haganah kidnapped Irgun fighters and handed them over to the British and sank the "Altalena."

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      • rick_mcginnis
        Posted June 28, 2011 at 7:30 am | Permalink

        I wasn't aware of Begin's actions; I do know that there was some serious factional strife in the British Mandate before independence. Would that the Irish had someone as steadfast, but we ended up with Eamonn de Valera instead – after Michael Collins had been killed by de Valera's Republicans. I was amazed that most people walked away from the Collins biopic a few years ago with any kind of idea of the nobility of the Irish 'struggle." It only underlined the brutal, self-defeating stupidity that's become business as usual in Eire today.

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