There Are Lies, There Are Damned Lies, And There Are Polls

Karl Rove breaks down the liberal polling bias on Hannity.

The Architect explains how both Obama and Romney are winning equal majorities of their base. However, Romney is winning independent voters.

But because of manipulation by pollsters Romney is losing by 9 points. It’s just the media playing tricks to demoralize conservatives.


It’s become routine here in Casa Avrech.

The poll numbers are delivered giving Barack Hussein Obama a clear edge. Karen and I do a silent-film style double-take and wonder: in what universe do people live who ignore the fiscal disaster this country is headed towards if Obama gets a second term?

It’s not as if the consequences of an entitlement state are unknown. Just look at Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal and you see the future. If not for Germany, the entire EU would collapse like a house of cards. And hard-working Germans are not going to carry European welfare witches for much longer.

It’s important to understand that the liberal media are not journalists. They are Obama campaign workers. Thus, every poll they take is designed to make Romney look like a loser. In this way big money migrates to Obama, Republican voters panic and attack Romney for running a blah campaign, and ultimately Republicans become discouraged and fail to show up on November 6, thereby giving the election to those who would fundamentally transform America into a grim welfare state.

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  1. crystalclear
    Posted September 28, 2012 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    About this Democrats = more government thing, how come with the war on drugs it is the republicans who consistently support the \status quo, resisiting any move the Democrats try to implement so as to stop this obscene waste of taxpayer money and resources, and indeed an immoral war against citizen who for example want to relax with something besides alchohol and tobbacco or gambling.
    why the republicans refuse to end this insane w.o.d. which is more government in your life. so it depends on the issue as to who is more government or not.  

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    • crystalclear
      Posted September 29, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

      Just to clarify, I am referring to Cannabis here. While I personally think this all drugs should be legalized, mostly from a pragmatic perspective, why ban and then have the criminal gangs profit, I understand most Americans would not go along with hat. Cannabis is used by millions of Americans weekly, and causes them no harm, certainly nothing as we see in legal drugs and alchohol. Here in the NY area, Cuomo tried to have  a decrim, bill and was rejected by Republicans. Same in New Jersey. As long as it remains federally illegal, there will still be an underground market which will support criminals. Now here is the part that is tricky. If I am for less government, i.e. less laws against Cannabis that is fine. But no one would support an unregulated change, i.e. let everyone grow as much as they want and trade with their neighbors. That would be fine with me, but would never pass a vote.
      So now if we want an end to WOD, we need to have government shift in involvement from prosecuting citizens who prefer cannabis to alchohol, to regulating the growing and commerical aspects. Fine, so it’s more government perhaps, but we would get many jobs and taxes out of it. Instead of what we have now, govenment sending people to jail for possession ( it does happen), and of course the dealers in that going to jail, in legalization they would be employees or owners of a dispensary. So that would be free market capitalism with benefits to citizens.

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      • Earl
        Posted October 3, 2012 at 6:36 am | Permalink

        I’m with you on that one, Crystal.  PJ O’Rourke would be too.
        Many of my friends still smoke marijuana, it may just be a coincidence that their political views dovetail mine much moreso than my drinking friends.  But I think not.  Get stoned, you think, or at least ruminate.  Get drunk, you don’t think at all.

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  2. Miranda Rose Smith
    Posted September 28, 2012 at 3:06 am | Permalink

    Off Topic, but I wish all the observant Jews on this website a happy, healthy Kosher Succot.

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  3. MAJ Virgil Hilts
    Posted September 28, 2012 at 2:51 am | Permalink

    This also sets the condition to contest, in whatever manner they deem effective, the elections.  Possible public justification:

    “We have seen that the Republicans will do anything to steal this election.  Their voter suppression against our most vulnerable citizens, the millions of dollars funneled into the process thanks to illegitimately calling corporations “people” and money “speech,” and the vicious, racist demonization of President Obama and his accomplishments all failed to sway the American people, as demonstrated by every credible poll in the three months leading up to the election.  Yet we are now being told by the corporate media and partisan mouthpieces that Mitt Romney won both the popular vote and the electoral college.  This is fraud.  This is theft.  This cannot stand.”

    From there, pick your course of action OWS/Community Orgainzer/Alinskyite Radical.  And that was just off the top of my head.  Imagine what somebody who believes (or would benefit from) that silliness could conjure up.


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  4. Johnny
    Posted September 27, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    The local CBS radio affiliate had people on to talk about the latest poll numbers.  They claim they only try to get the demographics (gender, age, education) to mirror the voting population and that they don’t try to balance party affiliation and that party affiliation just happens to be what it is. Total BS!

    Of course they also say the polls are a snapshot and don’t reflect what the actual votes will be.  So they have their plausible deniability when their polls are wrong. 

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  5. Bill Brandt
    Posted September 27, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Reminds me of Reagan-Carter, 1979. All the way to the Election Day it was neck and neck.
    Heard something interesting just now. The reason Obama is refusing to see foreign leaders is that traditionally a foreign leader will not visit the opposition candidate until he has seem the President.
    By not meeting with them Romney gets no exposure with them. At least that is speculation but interesting nevertheless.

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    • Barry
      Posted September 27, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Permalink


      Romney is not Reagan. I am not onside with Obama, but he is not Carter. Reagan- Obama would be a fascinating duel. This one, so far, is not a happening.

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      • Barry
        Posted October 3, 2012 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

        Romney handled himself better than well. He was Presidential. I stand corrected. Probably.

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  6. mata hari
    Posted September 27, 2012 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    So infuriating!  Reminds me of “Mr. Smith goes to Washington”.  Is there no way to counter this?
    Also wondering if it can work to their disadvantage….i.e. liberals so complacent that Obama will win, that don’t go out to vote. 

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  7. Posted September 27, 2012 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    Here’s the thing I don’t get: Polls won’t affect partisan voters, because they’ll vote for their candidate regardless. Which means that the use of skewed polls to swing the election for a preferred candidate is targeted specifically at undecided voters, who are apparently persuaded to ignore their misgivings or intuitions by the perception that they might as well vote for the pre-anointed “winner,” and not the perceived “loser.” That isn’t voting – it’s gambling. It frightens me not merely that democracy might actually work this way, but that there are people who think it perfectly natural and desirable that it should. 

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    • kishke
      Posted September 27, 2012 at 11:05 am | Permalink

      Bad polls affect partisan voters too, by discouraging them, and thus lowering voter turnout.

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    • Bill Brandt
      Posted September 27, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

      Rick – I have a neighbor who does not know how to vote. Completely apolitical. Said that her doctor said “If you want government everywhere in your life – vote for Obama – if you want less government – vote for Romney”
      Told her that was a good summary.

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